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03:45 < rvvs89> koniu__: grub doesn't run on the iPod, you are perhaps thinking of iPodLoader 2
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05:59 < ezekyel> hi
06:00 < ezekyel> where can i find the ipodlinux now cause the website is down?
06:04 < BHSPitMonkey> /Again?/
06:10 < rvvs89> ezekyel: Is there some file in particular you are looking for?
06:11  * rvvs89 will tar a copy of the wiki next time there's an opportunity
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06:12 < rvvs89> ezekyel: Is there some file in particular you are looking for?
06:13 < ezekyel> i need the stuff for install ipodlinux on my ipod, ipodloader, kernel, userland files...
06:14 < ezekyel> i tried http://ipodlinux.sourceforge.net/index.shtml, but its look like an old stuff...
06:14 < rvvs89> Yeah, the sourceforge site is all ancient
06:14 < rvvs89> Have a look in http://www.ucc.asn.au/~rvvs89/ipl/
06:15 < rvvs89> Everything you need should be there, either in stable or nightly
06:16 < BHSPitMonkey> rvvs89: maybe we could get that in the topic
06:16 < ezekyel> thanks for help. im going to try this.
06:16 < ezekyel> thank you very much.
06:16 < ezekyel> :)
06:17 < rvvs89> That's up to one of the ops
06:18 < rvvs89> Oh cool, progress for nano 2g
06:18 < rvvs89> Didn't see that
06:19 < BHSPitMonkey> Yeah
06:19 < BHSPitMonkey> I saw it on Digg the other day
06:38 < koniu__> rvvs89: i don't mean to -run- grub on the ipod, just put it there and run it on a pc
06:41 < courtc> koniu__: in order to do what you want, you would have to put it on the mbr of the iPod. That means you can run stuff *on* your iPod OR you can run stuff *off* your iPod. Not both. Unless of course you can figure out how to make your PC boot off of a non-mbr partition on a usb mass-storage device.
06:42 < rvvs89> Yeah, you can either have a useful firmware or grub and only emergency disk mode
06:43 < rvvs89> courtc: 'lo
06:43 < courtc> hiya.
06:44 < rvvs89> That's exciting news about the nano2g
06:44 < rvvs89> Particularly since it also applies to the 3g and 4g
06:45 < courtc> yep.
06:45 < courtc> They are pretty active. Funny thing is, many of the ipl devs are helping out, but none of use have 2+Gs ;D
06:45 < courtc> I've actually thought about designing a multi-arch bootloader.. That would be awesome.
06:46 < koniu__> courtc: ok, that sucks, thanks for your explanation however, perhaps there is some hacking that could be done - i'll look into it in spare time :)
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06:47 < rvvs89> Yeah, it would, although that's rather ambitious
06:48 < courtc> By multi-arch I mean a single bootloader binary that can boot multiple system arches, of course.
06:50 < courtc> I'm sure it's possible, the question is just how many arches could you fit in a single binary?
07:53 < ezekyel> the kernel won't boot. :(
07:55 < rvvs89> What errors, if any, do you get?
08:04 < ezekyel> no errors... the default apple error message in some languages... iTunes reset balblabla...
08:05 < rvvs89> Nice
08:06 < rvvs89> Sounds like an issue with the bootloader installation
08:06 < ezekyel> i followed the steps in the readme of ipodloader to create my_sw.bin and dd it to the ipod
08:07 < ezekyel> yes, i think so, i missed something, but i dont know what :)
08:07 < rvvs89> I suggest restoring the firmware from backup if you have a backup
08:07 < rvvs89> And then using ipodpatcher to add the firmware
08:07 < ezekyel> yes, i have. :)
08:08 < ezekyel> what is ipodpatcher?
08:08 < rvvs89> http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodPatcher#add_bootloader_bin_ab_filename_b
08:08 < rvvs89> A rockbox utility
08:08 < rvvs89> Mainly for installing the rockbox bootloader on the iPod, but can install any firmware image if you ask it to
08:09 < rvvs89> ./ipodpatcher -ab 'ipodloader.bin'
08:09 < rvvs89> or loader.bin, or whatever the file is in the ipodloader tarball
08:10 < ezekyel> oh, great. thanks. i try it too. :)
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08:42 < ezekyel> i missed...
08:43 < ezekyel> i load the linux fw...
08:43 < ezekyel> i have kernel panic, an d i cant do anything...
08:49 < rvvs89> What do you see on the console?
08:50 < ezekyel> unable to mount root fs
08:50 < ezekyel> i cant reset too
08:52 < rvvs89> Menu and Centre will always work
08:53 < ezekyel> thanks, i  've only know the menu/play combo.
08:54 < rvvs89> No worries, it's not like you could have seen it on the web site right now
08:54 < ezekyel> can i place it into disk mode somehow?
08:54 < rvvs89> Yes, immediately after you reboot hold menu and play
08:55 < rvvs89> The iPodLinux bootloader should also provide an option for this by default
08:57 < ezekyel>  think i dont have ipodloader anymore, i have onli the linux fw...
08:57 < ezekyel> only*
08:58 < rvvs89> What happens when you boot?
08:58 < ezekyel> i reboot it, the apple logo appears then booting linux...
08:59 < ezekyel> i feel myself so stupid...
09:01 < rvvs89> You either installed the bootloader as the kernel (which I didn't know was possible), installed the rockbox bootloader (which I didn't think would load Linux without being explicitly told to do so), or are running the old bootloader that did not have a menu
09:02 < ezekyel> before i've done this, the ipod loader worked, but i've no linux...
09:03 < ezekyel> i've used the command ipodpatcher -w
09:03 < ezekyel> that was a stupid thing...
09:03 < ezekyel> sorry no -w but -wfb. :|
09:04 < rvvs89> One of the least forgiving options :P
09:04 < rvvs89> If you have a firmware backup, you could dd it back
09:04 < rvvs89> Then use -ab
09:04 < ezekyel> i have, but when a plugged my ipod happens nothing.
09:05 < ezekyel> oh, i use mac os x, but linux maybe, can do it...
09:07 < rvvs89> So ipodpatcher failed to install the loader?
09:07 < ezekyel> no.
09:07 < ezekyel> wait a moment, and i write here my steps
09:08 < ezekyel> 1:  sudo ./ipodpatcher /dev/disk2 -ab loader.bin
09:09 < ezekyel> 2:sudo ./ipodpatcher /dev/disk2 -r apple_orig_fw.img
09:09 < ezekyel> 3:  sudo ./ipodpatcher /dev/disk2 -rf apple_orig_fw.ipod
09:09 < ezekyel> 4:  sudo ./ipodpatcher /dev/disk2 -wfb linux.bin
09:09 < rvvs89> Only stop 1 is necessary
09:09 < rvvs89> *step
09:10 < ezekyel> and tadaaaa, i've fucked my ipod...
09:10 < ezekyel> i dont know why to did this...
09:11 < rvvs89> Easiest remedy if you don't mind copying everything back is to simply restore your iPod with iTunes
09:12 < ezekyel> but i cant see it in iTunes, or macosx
09:12 < ezekyel> i dont see the device
09:13 < rvvs89> Reboot with Menu and Centre, then hold Centre and Play until you see emergency disk mode
09:15 < ezekyel> i dont konw the emergency diks mode too. :)
09:19 < rvvs89> http://web.archive.org/web/20080115015623/http://ipodlinux.org/Key_Combinations
09:19 < rvvs89> A useful reference
09:19 < ezekyel> thank, you are a very greatful help...
09:19 < ezekyel> thanks*
09:23 < ezekyel> huh, i've the ipoloader with three option, apple os, disk mode, sleep
09:23 < ezekyel> how can i add linux?
09:23 < ezekyel> with the -ab option too?
09:24 < rvvs89> The loader with automatically detect Linux if you add a kernel in an appropriate location
09:24 < rvvs89> Just a moment
09:25 < rvvs89> http://web.archive.org/web/20080212045046/http://ipodlinux.org/Loader_2#Simple_usage
09:25 < rvvs89> If you put the kernel in any of those places it will be detected automatically
09:37 < ezekyel> it works.
09:37 < ezekyel> but i've panic again.
09:37 < ezekyel> same error.
09:37 < rvvs89> Have you made a partition for Linux?
09:38 < ezekyel> i've a hfs+ ipod.
09:38 < ezekyel> do i need another parition?
09:38 < rvvs89> It likely has journaling enabled, which causes problems with the fs driver
09:39 < rvvs89> There's supposed to be a work-around, but I don't know what it is since the web site is down
09:39 < ezekyel> ok, thank you for many help!
09:40 < rvvs89> You can make it work by make a backup of the data on the HFS+ partition, then creating another partition of type ext2 as the third partition, while resizing the hfs+ partition to occupy its new smaller partition
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10:26 < antgeth> sooo, is there ever going to be a nice (or even a bad, but functional) gui installer for osx?
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19:09 < antgeth> s
19:09 < antgeth> *oops
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21:18 < ezekyel> i give up for today... i've tried many kernels...
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