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| Log opened Thu Jul 09 00:00:01 2009 | ||
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| 03:45 | rvvs89 | koniu__: grub doesn't run on the iPod, you are perhaps thinking of iPodLoader 2 |
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| 05:59 | ezekyel | hi |
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| 06:00 | ezekyel | where can i find the ipodlinux now cause the website is down? |
| 06:04 | BHSPitMonkey | /Again?/ |
| 06:10 | rvvs89 | ezekyel: Is there some file in particular you are looking for? |
| 06:11 | • | rvvs89 will tar a copy of the wiki next time there's an opportunity |
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| 06:12 | rvvs89 | ezekyel: Is there some file in particular you are looking for? |
| 06:13 | ezekyel | i need the stuff for install ipodlinux on my ipod, ipodloader, kernel, userland files... |
| 06:14 | ezekyel | i tried http://ipodlinux.sourceforge.net/index.shtml, but its look like an old stuff... |
| 06:14 | rvvs89 | Yeah, the sourceforge site is all ancient |
| 06:14 | rvvs89 | Have a look in http://www.ucc.asn.au/~rvvs89/ipl/ |
| 06:15 | rvvs89 | Everything you need should be there, either in stable or nightly |
| 06:16 | BHSPitMonkey | rvvs89: maybe we could get that in the topic |
| 06:16 | ezekyel | thanks for help. im going to try this. |
| 06:16 | ezekyel | thank you very much. |
| 06:16 | ezekyel | :) |
| 06:17 | rvvs89 | That's up to one of the ops |
| 06:18 | rvvs89 | Oh cool, progress for nano 2g |
| 06:18 | rvvs89 | Didn't see that |
| 06:19 | BHSPitMonkey | Yeah |
| 06:19 | BHSPitMonkey | I saw it on Digg the other day |
| 06:38 | koniu__ | rvvs89: i don't mean to -run- grub on the ipod, just put it there and run it on a pc |
| 06:41 | courtc | koniu__: in order to do what you want, you would have to put it on the mbr of the iPod. That means you can run stuff *on* your iPod OR you can run stuff *off* your iPod. Not both. Unless of course you can figure out how to make your PC boot off of a non-mbr partition on a usb mass-storage device. |
| 06:42 | rvvs89 | Yeah, you can either have a useful firmware or grub and only emergency disk mode |
| 06:43 | rvvs89 | courtc: 'lo |
| 06:43 | courtc | hiya. |
| 06:44 | rvvs89 | That's exciting news about the nano2g |
| 06:44 | rvvs89 | Particularly since it also applies to the 3g and 4g |
| 06:45 | courtc | yep. |
| 06:45 | courtc | They are pretty active. Funny thing is, many of the ipl devs are helping out, but none of use have 2+Gs ;D |
| 06:45 | courtc | I've actually thought about designing a multi-arch bootloader.. That would be awesome. |
| 06:46 | koniu__ | courtc: ok, that sucks, thanks for your explanation however, perhaps there is some hacking that could be done - i'll look into it in spare time :) |
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| 06:47 | rvvs89 | Yeah, it would, although that's rather ambitious |
| 06:48 | courtc | By multi-arch I mean a single bootloader binary that can boot multiple system arches, of course. |
| 06:50 | courtc | I'm sure it's possible, the question is just how many arches could you fit in a single binary? |
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| 07:53 | ezekyel | the kernel won't boot. :( |
| 07:55 | rvvs89 | What errors, if any, do you get? |
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| 08:04 | ezekyel | no errors... the default apple error message in some languages... iTunes reset balblabla... |
| 08:05 | rvvs89 | Nice |
| 08:06 | rvvs89 | Sounds like an issue with the bootloader installation |
| 08:06 | ezekyel | i followed the steps in the readme of ipodloader to create my_sw.bin and dd it to the ipod |
| 08:07 | ezekyel | yes, i think so, i missed something, but i dont know what :) |
| 08:07 | rvvs89 | I suggest restoring the firmware from backup if you have a backup |
| 08:07 | rvvs89 | And then using ipodpatcher to add the firmware |
| 08:07 | ezekyel | yes, i have. :) |
| 08:08 | ezekyel | what is ipodpatcher? |
| 08:08 | rvvs89 | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodPatcher#add_bootloader_bin_ab_filename_b |
| 08:08 | rvvs89 | A rockbox utility |
| 08:08 | rvvs89 | Mainly for installing the rockbox bootloader on the iPod, but can install any firmware image if you ask it to |
| 08:09 | rvvs89 | ./ipodpatcher -ab 'ipodloader.bin' |
| 08:09 | rvvs89 | or loader.bin, or whatever the file is in the ipodloader tarball |
| 08:10 | ezekyel | oh, great. thanks. i try it too. :) |
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| 08:42 | ezekyel | i missed... |
| 08:43 | ezekyel | i load the linux fw... |
| 08:43 | ezekyel | i have kernel panic, an d i cant do anything... |
| 08:49 | rvvs89 | What do you see on the console? |
| 08:50 | ezekyel | unable to mount root fs |
| 08:50 | ezekyel | i cant reset too |
| 08:52 | rvvs89 | Menu and Centre will always work |
| 08:53 | ezekyel | thanks, i 've only know the menu/play combo. |
| 08:54 | rvvs89 | No worries, it's not like you could have seen it on the web site right now |
| 08:54 | ezekyel | can i place it into disk mode somehow? |
| 08:54 | rvvs89 | Yes, immediately after you reboot hold menu and play |
| 08:55 | rvvs89 | The iPodLinux bootloader should also provide an option for this by default |
| 08:57 | ezekyel | think i dont have ipodloader anymore, i have onli the linux fw... |
| 08:57 | ezekyel | only* |
| 08:58 | rvvs89 | What happens when you boot? |
| 08:58 | ezekyel | i reboot it, the apple logo appears then booting linux... |
| 08:59 | ezekyel | i feel myself so stupid... |
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| 09:01 | rvvs89 | You either installed the bootloader as the kernel (which I didn't know was possible), installed the rockbox bootloader (which I didn't think would load Linux without being explicitly told to do so), or are running the old bootloader that did not have a menu |
| 09:02 | ezekyel | before i've done this, the ipod loader worked, but i've no linux... |
| 09:03 | ezekyel | i've used the command ipodpatcher -w |
| 09:03 | ezekyel | that was a stupid thing... |
| 09:03 | ezekyel | sorry no -w but -wfb. :| |
| 09:04 | rvvs89 | One of the least forgiving options :P |
| 09:04 | rvvs89 | If you have a firmware backup, you could dd it back |
| 09:04 | rvvs89 | Then use -ab |
| 09:04 | ezekyel | i have, but when a plugged my ipod happens nothing. |
| 09:05 | ezekyel | oh, i use mac os x, but linux maybe, can do it... |
| 09:07 | rvvs89 | So ipodpatcher failed to install the loader? |
| 09:07 | ezekyel | no. |
| 09:07 | ezekyel | wait a moment, and i write here my steps |
| 09:08 | ezekyel | 1: sudo ./ipodpatcher /dev/disk2 -ab loader.bin |
| 09:09 | ezekyel | 2:sudo ./ipodpatcher /dev/disk2 -r apple_orig_fw.img |
| 09:09 | ezekyel | 3: sudo ./ipodpatcher /dev/disk2 -rf apple_orig_fw.ipod |
| 09:09 | ezekyel | 4: sudo ./ipodpatcher /dev/disk2 -wfb linux.bin |
| 09:09 | rvvs89 | Only stop 1 is necessary |
| 09:09 | rvvs89 | *step |
| 09:10 | ezekyel | and tadaaaa, i've fucked my ipod... |
| 09:10 | ezekyel | i dont know why to did this... |
| 09:11 | rvvs89 | Easiest remedy if you don't mind copying everything back is to simply restore your iPod with iTunes |
| 09:12 | ezekyel | but i cant see it in iTunes, or macosx |
| 09:12 | ezekyel | i dont see the device |
| 09:13 | rvvs89 | Reboot with Menu and Centre, then hold Centre and Play until you see emergency disk mode |
| 09:15 | ezekyel | i dont konw the emergency diks mode too. :) |
| 09:19 | rvvs89 | http://web.archive.org/web/20080115015623/http://ipodlinux.org/Key_Combinations |
| 09:19 | rvvs89 | A useful reference |
| 09:19 | ezekyel | thank, you are a very greatful help... |
| 09:19 | ezekyel | thanks* |
| 09:23 | ezekyel | huh, i've the ipoloader with three option, apple os, disk mode, sleep |
| 09:23 | ezekyel | how can i add linux? |
| 09:23 | ezekyel | with the -ab option too? |
| 09:24 | rvvs89 | The loader with automatically detect Linux if you add a kernel in an appropriate location |
| 09:24 | rvvs89 | Just a moment |
| 09:25 | rvvs89 | http://web.archive.org/web/20080212045046/http://ipodlinux.org/Loader_2#Simple_usage |
| 09:25 | rvvs89 | If you put the kernel in any of those places it will be detected automatically |
| 09:37 | ezekyel | it works. |
| 09:37 | ezekyel | but i've panic again. |
| 09:37 | ezekyel | same error. |
| 09:37 | rvvs89 | Have you made a partition for Linux? |
| 09:38 | ezekyel | i've a hfs+ ipod. |
| 09:38 | ezekyel | do i need another parition? |
| 09:38 | rvvs89 | It likely has journaling enabled, which causes problems with the fs driver |
| 09:39 | rvvs89 | There's supposed to be a work-around, but I don't know what it is since the web site is down |
| 09:39 | ezekyel | ok, thank you for many help! |
| 09:40 | rvvs89 | You can make it work by make a backup of the data on the HFS+ partition, then creating another partition of type ext2 as the third partition, while resizing the hfs+ partition to occupy its new smaller partition |
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| 10:26 | antgeth | sooo, is there ever going to be a nice (or even a bad, but functional) gui installer for osx? |
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| 19:07 | • | antgeth is away: sleptime |
| 19:09 | antgeth | s |
| 19:09 | antgeth | *oops |
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| 21:18 | ezekyel | i give up for today... i've tried many kernels... |
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