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| Log opened Tue Jul 21 00:00:02 2009 | ||
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| 01:48 | skrapasor | hey thought i would let you guys know ive made a lot of progress on a simple package management system for ipl, if you want the source ask me, i'm quite a noob at c++ so any advice would be great |
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| 01:50 | skrapasor | but right now it's functional. i've sort of modeled it off of portage, but it's not source based (although i did consider that). you can specify specific versions of modules in package.versions file, and "update" and "install" will automatically check that file before installing modules. it can also remove and list the modules currently installed (it's a module manager, i shouldve been more specific) |
| 01:54 | skrapasor | its called ipl-get |
| 01:55 | skrapasor | clever, i know! |
| 01:57 | skrapasor | although i should mention that i still have to work on the part that transfers the modules to the ipod, right now they are just downloaded and extracted into a folder |
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| 15:18 | skrapasor | who has a server with all the files i need to get ipodlinux on my macpod? im using archive.org to view installation pages so i just need the files. |
| 15:18 | skrapasor | i already have the modules too |
| 15:21 | skrapasor | i think zeroslackr should have them |
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| 15:44 | skrapasor | zeroslackr says it doesnt work on macpods, why is that? |
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| 16:08 | skrapasor | is it possible to install on a macpod from linux? |
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| 16:11 | skrapasor | i think i need to turn of journaling |
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| 20:17 | neonlightning | i can't seem to find any progress on the ipl project since around 2k4 aside from the zeroslakr stuff from last year |
| 20:18 | BleuLlama | there haven't been many new things in the project. |
| 20:18 | BleuLlama | most of the users stopped contributing, got bored, and wandered off |
| 20:18 | BleuLlama | there's been some recent (in the past 2 weeks) developments on getting code running on Nano2G though |
| 20:19 | BleuLlama | mainly by the Linux4Nano folks |
| 20:20 | neonlightning | i have a nano 1g and was trying to decide between ipl or rockbox i wanted ipl since its the os i've used as my desktop for the last 10 years but rockbox looks more actively supported and functional |
| 20:21 | BleuLlama | six of one, half a dozen of the other |
| 20:21 | BleuLlama | what do you want to do with it? |
| 20:21 | BleuLlama | or rather |
| 20:21 | BleuLlama | what do you want to do *on* it? |
| 20:23 | neonlightning | basically i'm trying to figure out what i CAN do with it with rockbox i know there is the gb emulator and easy customization but linux on ipod i really don't know what it can do at all |
| 20:24 | BleuLlama | if you want an OS underneath your code, go for linux |
| 20:24 | BleuLlama | if you want something that will probably run code faster, and do a better job with audio playback, go for rockbox |
| 20:25 | neonlightning | how much software is actually ported over to the ipod linux i'm guessing it would be model specific |
| 20:26 | BleuLlama | pretty much. the limitations are lack of keyboard, and small screen size |
| 20:27 | BleuLlama | (and it runs custom grapics display layers, not X11 or anything like that) |
| 20:27 | BleuLlama | so most "ports" are generally rewrites at the UI level |
| 20:27 | neonlightning | i really can't think of much that i could run that uses gui that could work on that smallof a screen |
| 20:27 | neonlightning | and lack of keyboard makes things without gui not very functional i'm assuming |
| 20:28 | BleuLlama | so you won't see "xfig", but you will see Doom, gameboy emulators, simple text editors, etc. |
| 20:28 | neonlightning | is there anywhere i can go to see some of the stuff i can install |
| 20:28 | BleuLlama | well, the main app, podzilla, offers an API for apps for graphics, user input (on screen keyboards, etc) for new/ported apps. |
| 20:29 | BleuLlama | unfortunately, a hacker decided it would be fun to compromise our server, so it's offline for now |
| 20:29 | BleuLlama | i'd recommend starting with rockbox, and trying that out |
| 20:29 | BleuLlama | since that's something you can start with immediately |
| 20:29 | neonlightning | k i paid 20$ for it and have a 2gig sansa e220 anyway so not much of a loss if i screw things up |
| 20:30 | neonlightning | thanks you were definately helpful |
| 20:30 | BleuLlama | iirc, you can use rockbox on the sansa as well |
| 20:30 | BleuLlama | :) |
| 20:30 | BleuLlama | not positive about that. |
| 20:30 | BleuLlama | glad to help. :) |
| 20:30 | neonlightning | not on this version |
| 20:31 | BleuLlama | ok. sorry. |
| 20:31 | • | BleuLlama is shaky with rockbox. |
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| 20:55 | imphasing | Maybe I'll get around to porting ruby to ipl, making it instantly awesome. |
| 20:55 | neonlightning | BleuLlama thanks yea thats suiting my needs perfectly although i'll still probably try ipl |
| 20:55 | imphasing | Well, more awesome. |
| 20:55 | imphasing | ipl is pretty much amazing already. |
| 20:55 | imphasing | But hooks into podzilla from ruby would be kickin'. |
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| 21:05 | BleuLlama | hmm. i should revisit my iPod Nano cabinet. |
| 21:05 | BleuLlama | hack the Nano completely, to fit entirely inside the case |
| 21:06 | BleuLlama | need to figure out an idea for the controls though |
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| 22:57 | skrapasor | so how do i install on a macpod from linux? what i tried was disabling journaling, which gave me write access, and then running ./ipodpatcher -wfb loader.bin, but when i boot the ipod and select apple, it wont load, i think i skipped a step because the apple firmware seems to be gone now |
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| 23:23 | Keripo | (4:28:38 PM) BleuLlama: unfortunately, a hacker decided it would be fun to compromise our server, so it's offline for now |
| 23:23 | • | Keripo curious |
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| Log closed Wed Jul 22 00:00:00 2009 | ||
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